My Battle with Modesty

WARNING: I'm not sure about the appropriateness of this for guys...so if you think it's bad, stop reading. Okay?

I read Jay Lauser’s excellent post on A New Kind of Modesty (which you really, really, really should read, though I won’t post it up seven times like my big sister C’rissie :P) yesterday, and thought I would like to blog my struggle and weakness in that area for...encouragement? General opinion? Not quite sure, although it certainly wasn’t out of self consideration. :P

Then I read C’rissie’s post connected with Jay’s, A Rant on Modesty ;), which you can read here.

And decided that I felt too embarrassed after reading that, because they were both so good and covered the ground enough, so I wouldn’t. Well, this morning, I changed my mind. (Although after rereading it again just, with all the comments, I feel quite small about posting this...*hits send before I rethink*)


It’s not too often that I gain a victory over my worldliness to be happy in the clothes I’m wearing. This morning, I had one of those sadly rare times when I could walk along the street triumphantly, smiling innocently at the girls who stare wide eyed at me, passing the boys gawking with a firm and friendly face, ignoring the girls who walk past tittering and the guys who stay just out of earshot in a group behind me, whispering and laughing, and yes, even find it in myself to laugh at their narrow minds and pity them for it. I’m not even wearing the more extreme style in clothes; just my old blue cardy-jacket, zipped up all the way, and a nice, mid length (between ankle and knee) very loose and swirly blue grey skirt WITH POCKETS. (If you know me quite well, you will know that I LOVE pockets in my clothes, and that the attachment developed with the frustration of being constantly in a uniform with no pocket in the skirt, two in the working shirt that you’re not really supposed to use, and absolutely ZERO in the best blue blouse – to the boys’ two in trousers and two in working AND best blue.) My hair is plaited back (yes, plaited. Horrors.) from my forehead and then plaited into a bun. And although I’m not extremist, I have been the only girl of my age (give or take ten/twenty years) that I have ever seen dressing to my level in my home town. Actually, when walking around other cities, there is only the rare one or two, and they are Mennonites.

Do you know what was nice about it? I was walking along with a jaunty step, listening to my tape of Relient K and Tenth Avenue North (oh, and my best friend Kyle’s rendition of Pachelbel’s Canon D. Mustn’t forget that. :P ;) ) and feeling – safe. Yes, safe. Everyone’s eyes were actually directed where I want them to be. At my face. Not going up and down me. And I’m sure the joy I felt in my security and in actually standing out FOR CHRIST showed in my face. I wish it would all the time. I was thinking about what Jay and Carissa had both written, and praying that somehow God would use me to bless someone, to encourage someone to take a stand. I have no idea if that was answered or not; but that’s His business, not mine. The way the guys behaved was interesting, too. Not the younger ones; they ignored, gaped or whispered. But the older ones stood aside, spoke to me politely...I even had one lady in a shop call her son to serve “the lady”. *laughs*

And so today’s lesson for me? Walk like you own the world, for you own something far greater. Not just modesty, and not just purity. But the gift of God’s salvation and blessing, and if you’re living in the former two, how much more likely it is that the latter will be blazed out to the world.


Umm hmm. Happy story, and the way it’s meant to be. A victory in Christ. But I don’t live it every day.

My parents didn’t bring me up this way. Although I used to wear dresses and that when I was younger (oh yes, I had my lovely supply of smocks and dainty frocks for Sundays ;)) I also had my large supply of two or three culottes and a drawer full of shorts. Short shorts, and all. My Mom wore jeans, day in and day out. Apart from Sundays. Then at some point when I was about eight or nine, perhaps a little younger or older, Mom changed her heart and style and she wore skirts every day. Never did she insist that I wear them, but when I reached nine or ten and started to outgrow my shorts, the length of leg exposed began to embarrass me. I never had a prejudice against skirts in the slightest; I always loved the feminine look and the individuality they expressed, but they were not practical for my favourite activities – rolling round the mud with my twin brother, playing snail races up the wall, hiding in bushes, crawling round the floor playing with a toy train set. :P (Actually, the last time I did that, I was 13.) However, I began to change my activities (not to my brother’s happiness, I confess) and got into skirts day in and day out. It’s never been a change I regret, as I am not a fashion girl and dress in my own style. Even during my two backslides, skirts have never been a problem for me...the shortest skirt I own is my uniform skirt, which actually transgresses the standard for uniform in that it is a little below my kneecap instead of just on it.

Length of skirt has never been a problem. Looseness of skirt – has. I don’t wear things that cling to every inch – not just counting the modesty standard, it’s blooming uncomfortable to walk around in something that feels like a second skin! Unfortunately, I have been cursed or blessed (depending on a – way of looking at it and b – my use or misuse of that advantage) with what the world terms a good figure. And I have deliberately worn things that use it to my advantage. Modesty protests were quelled with the fact that it’s a skirt and it’s not as bad as what the rest of the girls wear. And it wasn’t all that tight, either. However, by God’s standards...? Yeah, I have to flinch and duck. Some items in my wardrobe still need weeding out, I confess.

By the way. Have you ever noticed how freeing it is to wear a loose skirt? All right, it doesn’t make you feel powerful and on top of the world. I find I feel safer in Christ hiding in a shroud (and yeah, dying to self) and standing out than I do by blending in with the world. :P

At college the other week I was wearing a lovely, long, flowing black skirt and a t-shirt that I confess...isn’t modest by the highest standards. Yes, I was wearing a modesty panel. Yes, it covered every inch of skin that shouldn’t be seen. (I am not debating necklines – not in the mood and I think it’s a person’s own decision, up to a point.) The material was stretchy elastic. I think now and then that I really should dispose of it, but it was a gift off my sister and is unfortunately quite a pretty top – black with a pattern of silver roses and leaves delicately draped over the front. Guys don’t seem to notice as much when I’m in worldly clothes – I know that that sounds like a contradiction, but if I am in a dark mood and simply want to blend in, I will wear that or something like that. Not only does it make me feel more...powerful? And more attractive, but since the guys don’t seem to bother me when I wear stuff like that, there’s hardly any encouragement not to. I’m blending in clothes-wise, and it’s way more comfortable.

Tops have always been a problem for me. Unless I did wear a feed sack, there is no way I could hide I’m a girl. I don’t wear blouses every day. It is not practical in the slightest, as all of mine are fancy and I would wreck them. T-shirts are favourites...but the problem with t-shirts is that...most of them...aren’t...the best kind of clothing in the world. :P Modesty panels (and boy, I’m so thankful that my parents got me some! I can now wear tops I couldn’t wear before) help a great deal with sharp v-necks, but then there’s the question of watching material, patterns, etc. I don’t like looking like a freak with a v-neck that ends in a weird way, or with horizontal stripes – and believe me, I have three or four t-shirts that make me look like a freak. :P But the others I wear have a line between being attractive and overly so. However, being the problem that t-shirts are for me, I confess I don’t watch them closely enough. How closely I need to watch them, I have no idea, so I usually go by how I feel when I go outside the front door. If I get the definite urge to hide in a coat...well, it’s probably not decent enough. Whether I do go and grab another t-shirt, cardy, jumper or coat usually depends on my mood, and usually my mood is in a don’t care mode. No one else cares, so why should I? I don’t look or feel like a freak, I’m decent (ish), my parents don’t mind, and while I still have my own fashion, I’m not standing out so far from the crowd that everyone’s going to start gawking.
That’s partly why Jay’s post was so encouraging. It does matter to the very few if we stand to make a difference. And although I can’t promise that I’m going to always make a stand and try to be as radically different as I know I should be, I will definitely put a bit more effort into it. For Christ’s sake, and for His servants. God grant me the strength.

Oh, by the way. (I nearly used the slang btw then! Grrr. *glares at self*) Please don’t get the idea I’m condemning shorts or trousers. :P I use trousers at least once a week to clean out the chickens (even though they’re the sort of trousers that makes me look twice to make sure no one’s around before stepping out the front door :P) And I also use combats when doing a greens exercise or a cleanup with cadets, and occasionally uniform trousers (yech – they look horrid. Literally. Gem and I both hate them.) when going gliding or flying. Just – I prefer skirts. Although I try to be like a guy in some things, I do like hiding behind my girlishness in that way. :P

Hope this has been of some interest! Although it is not, I misdoubt me, the post that Jay was expecting when I said that his had sparked me off to want to do one. *laughing*

God bless!
~ Janie

Comments

  1. *agrees* I think we have talked about this once in the past, but since you posted something about this, why not add a comment. :P

    I also love wearing skirts, but there are a few things that make me shy away from them at times. Length is definitely an issue for me. I will not wear anything that is above my knees. If it comes down to the bottom of my knees, than I am comfortable in them, I would not prefer to wear them, but in the summer time they can be nice. My favorite length to wear is a LONG skirt.... ankle length. :P Although, where I live it is all (for the most part) desert. So it can be kinda tough to wear skirts out here... especially to where we just moved to. :P Another thing is that the homeschoolers have a funny reputation here in the states, and most likely they have the same reputation there too. Anywho, we are know for more of the prairie skirts, the jean jumpers or long jean skirts. So, I do have a hard time with being thought as "oh she is one of those weird homeschoolers" I mean, half of the time I don't really care, and the other half, I don't want to be thought of in that way.... even though I am. :P But I did start wearing skirts a few years back and absolutely love it. If I had more skirts (I only have a few which I save for town mainly) I would wear them all the time.... But like I said, there are times when I would not wear them..... and this comment has gotten longer than I wanted. :P So, I have one more thing I want to say before I wrap this up. Sorry it is so long, Jane. Maybe we can talk about it more later. :)

    The last point I want to make is one the shirts. (*mumbles* I guess the first one was not a point. *shrugs* oh well*) There is a fine line between the shirts of today and modest ones. Now, I will say I do wear some pretty low shirts, but I just make sure that I have a tank top, or something like that, underneath it. But I wear tee- shirts all the time.. if I am going into town it will be a nice one, low (with something under neath it) or a blouse, and when we are home, I wear one that has a high neckline. :)

    Anywho. *slaps self* I have to stop using that..... Anyways, that is all... for now. :P

    Love you,
    ~Kiehl

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  2. I actually thought it would be something like that. :) You are more transparent than you like to think. ;)

    A note, not of condemnation, but of encouragement. To both of you.

    Ankle length skirts are a vast improvement on knee length skirts (even the longer knee length skirts). Girls who wear the ankle length skirts are in a completely different category than those who wear knee length. So, I want to thank you for making the effort, and even more I want to thank you if you make the extra effort to go 'all the way'. :)

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  3. *groans* I HATE being readable!

    Thank you for the encouragement. :) I'll do some thinking and praying, but it will require a fair bit of money and a clean out of most of my wardrobe - an extent which I'm not quite sure I'm prepared for yet.
    Also, in the RAF, I shall definitely have to comply with their rules. :P

    Thanks for commenting!

    ~Jane

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  4. Kiehl, dear, thank you so much for commenting. I'm afraid I'm getting the blogger illness of hoping people are interested enough to comment. :P :)

    Yes, I would love to talk about it more later - you know that. :) And thank you for the length, too! Yes, homeeducators probably have the reputation of looking like Mennonites all around the world, to be honest.

    Shirts/blouse/tops/t-shirts ARE a very difficult line to draw, I completely agree. In fact, what I didn't say out and out up there (I think) was that that is my worst battle with modesty. Hmm...I used to wear blouses buttoned all the way up, but then it was easier to wear t-shirts...I remember a time when I thought anything below the collarbone was immodest...now most blouses - unless they're loose - have to have the collar button undone. That IS cadet influence, I'll admit...*is droning another blog, so draws to a close*

    Once again, thank you for commenting, my wonderful sister. :)

    Love always,
    Janie xx

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  5. First of all, how in the world can you be so honest? That was a extremely interesting post, tis making me think about the reasons I wear certain things... Just wondering, but do you think shorts are immodest?

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  6. I think I know what you mean Jane. :) I think I am too. :P

    Yes, shirts are hard to find now. I would actually love to sew half of my shirts/skirt, if I had the time, skill, and the money. Just because, like you said, they are hard to find with a modest neckline. I don't... personally, think that having the collar button undone is immodest. I will say that I, during the summer, wear my collar shirts unbuttoned with another shirt underneath. But again, that is just how I like it.

    Shorts/pants.... *facepalm* I knew I was forgetting something in there.... :P

    Anywho, I am not really sure why I am posting this comment... I guess I just could have waited for you. *shrugs* Oh well... I guess. :)

    Love you,
    ~Kiehl

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  7. @Anonymous Being honest requires humbling one's pride. An act of God's grace, not of my own, believe me. :)

    By my standards of modesty, yes, I would say so. But that is judging shorts for me.
    Knee length shorts, loose enough not to outline the leg, would probably be okay by less strict standards.

    I'm glad it's making you think! :) If you haven't checked out Jay and Carissa's posts on modesty, you will find them far better thought out and thought provoking. :)

    ~ Janie

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  8. "Jay said: Ankle length skirts are a vast improvement on knee length skirts (even the longer knee length skirts). Girls who wear the ankle length skirts are in a completely different category than those who wear knee length. So, I want to thank you for making the effort, and even more I want to thank you if you make the extra effort to go 'all the way'. :)"

    Jay: Really? That is interesting. I personally think that knee length skirts are really impractical. With long skirts you don't have to worry very much about whether or not you are covered. You can move around a lot more. Plus they are more fun.

    Janie: I'm glad you decided to post your thoughts anyway. :) I think I am going to do a post about my modesty "testimony" and ongoing trials with it too...

    "Walk like you own the world, for you own something far greater. Not just modesty, and not just purity. But the gift of God’s salvation and blessing, and if you’re living in the former two, how much more likely it is that the latter will be blazed out to the world."

    Very good! :) I actually enjoy walking around in the store or wherever... I know people think me odd, not just because of the dress, but also because I am happy and helpful. And I really hope that, while they are thinking about how weird I/we are, they also think about why we are like that.

    "Yes, safe. Everyone’s eyes were actually directed where I want them to be. At my face. Not going up and down me. And I’m sure the joy I felt in my security and in actually standing out FOR CHRIST showed in my face. "

    *smiles* I love that feeling!!

    "By the way. Have you ever noticed how freeing it is to wear a loose skirt?"

    Yup! My favorites are the really swirly long ones. ;)

    Thank you for writing this post! I liked it. :)

    Love,
    C'rissie

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  9. If I may ask, what are your reasons for considering shorts immodest? I personally don't see a problem with them... And what do you actually consider modesty?
    Ive also read the other two posts you mentioned. They were interesting.

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